Prior to purchasing the Sur Ron I became incredibly interested in the Neematic bike. You can read about that in my About Mark section. In any event a current company named UBCO who produces a very slick utility bike is now set to sell the Neematic. The article where I read about this states “The UBCO FRX1 Freeride Trail Bike is set to be debuted at the AIMExpo on Sept 26 in Columbus, Ohio.”

THIS would be the only bike I’d consider to replace my Sur Ron. That would depend on several factors, but I’m excited that this bike may ACTUALLY BE PRODUCED. Competition breeds improvement in any class of manufacturing.


  1. Perhaps push Sur-Ron and/or Luna to develop a more robust pedal kit? They did this with the headest bearings. The original UBCO bike was one of the first I looked at when I started this quest. Coming from a hunting more utility in the back country history, the UBCO looked very appealing. Having my Light Bee for a couple of months now, I can honestly say that the lighter more nimble class was a better choice for me. Hauling butt is much more fun than hauling gear.

    That FRX1 looks like a design starting from a true mountain bike, whereas the Bee sure seems to me to be a design originating from a motorcycle. With both headed towards the same market niche. Interesting looking bike.

    • The more I assess the Neematic the more I’m pleased with my decision. The Neematic would not allow the choice between pegs or pedals. The Sur Ron allows me to make that choice.

  2. Mark, yes, pedals as an option is nice. UBCO’s actual designed bike has what appears to be a robust frame, with it supporting body and battery. Hub drives in the wheeels. This Neematic definitely gives me pause with the way the frame is set up. It looks like the back end and suspension may be pivoting on the motor shaft. I will be curious to see how the gearing works, and perhaps some reviews on the “robustness” of the frame/motor design. I do have to say it is a good looking bike, much like ours.

  3. Guys…lets be honest…who really needs a crankset on a e-motorbike?

  4. Andreas, until such time we have uniform laws for bike/offroad vehicle usage (state/local/federal), there will be lots of folks who can benefit from a crankset. As the Light Bee can be ridden in a manner consistent with the parameters generally legislated to be consistent with what an e-bicycle can do or is allowed to do, why should the Bee be excluded simply because it does not have pedals, or because it has a throttle. Put pedals on a Bee, and the only appreciable difference between it and a e-bicycle is the throttle. Assuming it is being ridden in a manner consistent with where and how e-bicycles are being ridden and governed.

    Currently I am using my Bee as more of an e-motorbike, as you note. While I have a pedal kit, I have no need currently to install. But I am only an hour away from Colorado, and if I ever plan for any riding weekends up there on Federal land, I will most definitely be installing the pedals.

  5. well Craig is a motorbike..there is no denying. So why put something on it which is practically useless ??

  6. Andreas, it is not much different than someone adding lights, blinkers and mirrors to many motorbikes, to make them legal for public roads. I have seen more than a few youtubes with folks indicating the pedals make the Bee legal in the jurisdiction in which they intend to ride. Or to get classification as a moped, for registration and insurance purposes.

    Perhaps useless for you, perhaps of limited use for me right this moment, but I generally try and not project my use/experience/needs onto others, with blanket vague condemnations.

  7. Gentlemen, I am going to say something here. I built this site to help owners, plain and simple. I do know that people have their own opinions about this or that. But I will always caution EVERYONE that saying that someone ‘should or should not’ do this or that with their bikes is better left to the endless forums that exist where many just have to be right.

    I have a pedal kit installed for my own personal reasons. I could care less what others think about why I’ve done so. It meets my personal needs. For those that don’t agree that it’s something they want, that’s fine. If they don’t like it, just don’t come here, build your own site where you can say how you feel it is the RIGHT WAY (MEANING YOUR WAY) to own or operate something.

    For now I’ll leave it at that. But IF this continues I’ll just delete the comments, why? Well because it’s my site and I pay for it and built the fucking thing. It’s one of the main reasons I moderate comments. I don’t have a stake in the sales of Sur Rons. I do this as a service to other owners. I put my money where my mouth is by doing this.

  8. Hi Mark,

    Thank you for noting our next phase with UBCO bikes. It’s time to hit the market. Would love if you could get back to me via email to discuss more – interested in your views. Thank you!

  9. Mark, I honestly apologize that it came that far but the comment section isn´t there to comment?? nly to pad each others back? Well then…

    • Andreas my comment section is not designed or meant to be a ‘hey let’s all kiss and hold hands’ kind of thing. When people want to present alternative views rather than implying “I’m right and they way you’re doing it is stupid” kind of comments then that’s absolutely fine. I purposely avoid forums because that’s the kind of constant behavior I have found there. So I don’t participate in forums. Choosing to visit a site or forum is an individual choice. I’m not here to argue back and forth. I got divorced because of that shit.

  10. Me too 😀

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